Concise Minutes - Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee


Meeting Venue:

Hybrid – Committee Room 5 Tŷ Hywel and video conference via Zoom

Meeting date: Thursday, 2 October 2025

Meeting time: 09.15 - 12.08
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/15624


Hybrid

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Attendance

Category

Names

Members of the Senedd:

Mark Isherwood MS (Chair)

Tom Giffard MS

Mike Hedges MS

Hannah Blythyn MS

Witnesses:

Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk, Senedd Commission

Rt. Hon. Elin Jones MS, Llywydd

Ed Williams, Senedd Commission

Lisa Bowkett, Senedd Commission

Committee Staff:

Fay Bowen (Clerk)

Lowri Jones (Deputy Clerk)

Nick Raynor (Audit Wales)

Tim Buckle (Audit Wales)

Matthew Mortlock (Audit Wales)

Philippa Dixon

Martin Jennings (Researcher)

 

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1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest

1.1        The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting.

1.2        Apologies were received from Adam Price MS and Rhianon Passmore MS, Hannah Blythyn MS attended in her place.

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2       Paper(s) to note

2. The papers were noted.

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2.1   Letter from the Rt Hon Eluned Morgan AS, First Minister of Wales to the Chair regarding the Ministerial Code

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2.2   Letter from FDA Cymru | Wales to David Richards, Director, Governance & Ethics - Welsh Government regarding the Ministerial Code

2.2 The Committee agreed to write to the FDA.

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2.3   Correspondence between Chair, Finance Committee and Mark Drakeford MS, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Welsh Language regarding planning for Census 2031

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2.4   Audit Wales' report: Temporary accommodation, long-term crisis?

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2.5   Audit Wales' report: Welsh Government funding for the failed Porthcawl Maritime Centre

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3       Scrutiny of Accounts - Senedd Commission 2024-25: evidence session with Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Senedd

3.1 The Committee received evidence from Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Senedd, the Llywydd and senior Senedd Commission staff.

3.2 Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Senedd agreed to provide a note on cyber security.

3.3 Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Senedd agreed to write to the Committee with details on expenditure on third parties such as specialist consultants for 2024-25.

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4       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting

4.1 The motion was agreed.

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5       Scrutiny of Accounts - Senedd Commission 2024-25: consideration of evidence

5.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

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6       Audit Wales' reports: Temporary accommodation, long-term crisis?

6.1 The Committee discussed the report.

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7       Audit Wales' report: Welsh Government funding for the failed Porthcawl Maritime Centre

7.1 The Committee discussed the report.

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8       Active Travel in Wales: consideration of draft report

8.1 The Committee discussed the report and agreed to return to consider a second iteration at a future meeting.

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9       Forward work programme

9.1 The Committee agreed the forward work programme.

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